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Post by CoUrTnEy on May 6, 2004 13:34:11 GMT -5
you guys are my wealth of knowlege. so i must ask.. the "original" jews.. what race were they?? and pls give me some scriptural proof if you may  |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on May 6, 2004 13:38:52 GMT -5
check out this article i found on google:
The Original Biblical Jews Were a
Black African People
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The original Jews in Africa 2000 years ago were a Black African people as an ethnic group. (Massey: Egypt Light of the Word p501) Many of them still are Black, in northenrn Africa such as the Falasha Jews of Ethiopia. A New York Times editorial (3/2/84) described them as "a lost tribe that has kept it identiy for more than 2,000 years in a remote corner of Africa." Abraham, ancestor of the Hebrews, was from Chaldea; the ancient Chaldeans were Black. In fact, Africa takes it name from Ophren, a son of Abraham by his wife, Keturah (Whiston: The Life and Works of Flavius Josephus p50) Like Jesus, Mary and Joseph, the lineage of Ethiopian Emperor, Haile Selassie also goes back to Judah -through Solomon/Queen of Sheba and King David.
Roman historian Tacitus wrote that many of his time believed that the Jews "were a race of Ethiopian origion." The Bible classifies the Ethiopians & Jews together, "Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the Lord." (Amos 9:7) Black Paul is mistaken for an "Egyptian" and declares himself to be a "Jew." (Acts 21:37-39, 22: 2,3) That the Jews got their language, religion & culture from the Canaanites & Sumerians through Babylon, is well documented by historians. The original ancient Hebrew alphabet was identical to that of the Phoenicians. "Semitic languages" are really dialectical variants of African languages.
The word Semite is from semi which means half. Half what? Half BLACK! (mulatto!) Semite refers to the descendants of Shem, one of Noah's sons. The word originates from the Latin prefix semi which means half. "half Black and half white... therefore Black (since Black is genetically dominant)" points out Dr. Cress Welsing. Historian Cheikh Anta Diop also points out that the "Semitic" arises in the 4th millennia B.C. from crossbreeding between Black inhabitants of the holy land and white northern invaders. While many Semites (such as Jews & gypsies) have mixed so much with whites that they've forgotten or deny their African roots, racism (white supremacy) will never let them forget this no matter how light-skinned they become, as proved by Hitler, who mandated their destruction because they were classified by whites as "non-white" peple originating in Africa. The very word gypsy means "out of Egypt."
whatcha think?
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Post by 1dell on May 6, 2004 13:46:20 GMT -5
Actually courty, the Egyptians and the babylonians and assyrians hold the key to this. These nations depicted artwork and statue work with the Ancient hebrew on them. You will find murals in egypt of their hebrew slaves and they are my complextion. I forgot where you can find this onlne but it's out there, also the assyrians and babylonians have depictions of therse same slaves and they had curly bushes and curly beards. I wish I had some links but I know Akhenaten2 has a site with all this stuff on it.
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Post by CoUrTnEy on May 6, 2004 13:56:19 GMT -5
what do you think of the article i posted? Actually courty, the Egyptians and the babylonians and assyrians hold the key to this. These nations depicted artwork and statue work with the Ancient hebrew on them. You will find murals in egypt of their hebrew slaves and they are my complextion. I forgot where you can find this onlne but it's out there, also the assyrians and babylonians have depictions of therse same slaves and they had curly bushes and curly beards. I wish I had some links but I know Akhenaten2 has a site with all this stuff on it. |
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Post by Ralph on May 6, 2004 14:48:41 GMT -5
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Post by 1dell on May 7, 2004 7:14:30 GMT -5
Well Courty, There is some truth and false up in here. If you want I can do a break down for you but for right now I'll just touch on some things. Moshe was mistaken for an egyptian by the midianites but that could have been because he was wearing egyptian clothing and hairstyle because the midianites were direct descendants of Abraham as were the hebrews. And as this article states, so was Paul. But thats not saying much because I believe the Rape of Egypt by the greeks and romans had already taken place by then and the intermarrying lightened the already pretty light egyptians. I could be wrong about that. But as for calling the Hebrews african makes no sense to me. and I guess we can touch on the Semi/Shemite bull jank while we're at it. First of All it's impossible for the Ethiopians to be Hebrews, they are Cushites. Cush was the son of Khem/Ham. The hebrews are descendants of Shem. Sure there were times when the hebrews had interracial relations with the ethiopians. I believe one of Abraham's wives was ethiopian. My memory fails me on that but I am pretty sure of it. And Moshe married an ethiopian woman and Solomon is rumored to have fathered a child by the Queen of Sheba who was a cushite, but that would not make them no more hebrew than if my father was white would make me white. As for that semi shemite bull jank. SIGH!!!  First of all this person is playing with english and hebrew at the same time not realizing the source. The word semite ACTUALLY is a translitertation of the word Shemite which means a descendant of Shem. See here is the deal in hebrew there are 2 letters that look the EXACT same but get 2 different sounds. One is the Sin (seen) and the other is Shin (Sheen) they both look like our letter W. Those of other languages have a difficult time transliterating these letters because without vowel points you don't know which is which unless you are familiar with hebrew. which is how the word Ishua becomes Jesus. But thats an entirely different story. So using said principle Shem becomes Sem to the untrained eye. They now know this but it's a stubborn situation because who is gonna go back and rewrite all the books were we already have Semites instead of Shemites? I hope I am not boring you with this, but what I am saying is this person is misappropriating the word usage. In english we have a prefix semi- but this has nothing to do with hebrew or the word semite. The word semite is a bastardized mistransliteration of the word Shemite. lol. So that half white half black bull crap is horrifically inaccurate. Thats as crazy has those people who say that god made Abram a black man when he put Ham on his name and made his name ABraham. Ham is indeed the progenitor of the black races (supposedly) BUT what the world doesn realeyes is that his name is spelled Khem and is a victim of another incorrect transliteration. BUT Abraham's name is spelled Abrhm not abrkhm. Since none of the cats have a familiarity with hebrew, they fail miserably at distributing truth to us. And it's sad because Black people eat this up like candy check out this article i found on google: The Original Biblical Jews Were a Black African People -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The original Jews in Africa 2000 years ago were a Black African people as an ethnic group. (Massey: Egypt Light of the Word p501) Many of them still are Black, in northenrn Africa such as the Falasha Jews of Ethiopia. A New York Times editorial (3/2/84) described them as "a lost tribe that has kept it identiy for more than 2,000 years in a remote corner of Africa." Abraham, ancestor of the Hebrews, was from Chaldea; the ancient Chaldeans were Black. In fact, Africa takes it name from Ophren, a son of Abraham by his wife, Keturah (Whiston: The Life and Works of Flavius Josephus p50) Like Jesus, Mary and Joseph, the lineage of Ethiopian Emperor, Haile Selassie also goes back to Judah -through Solomon/Queen of Sheba and King David. Roman historian Tacitus wrote that many of his time believed that the Jews "were a race of Ethiopian origion." The Bible classifies the Ethiopians & Jews together, "Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the Lord." (Amos 9:7) Black Paul is mistaken for an "Egyptian" and declares himself to be a "Jew." (Acts 21:37-39, 22: 2,3) That the Jews got their language, religion & culture from the Canaanites & Sumerians through Babylon, is well documented by historians. The original ancient Hebrew alphabet was identical to that of the Phoenicians. "Semitic languages" are really dialectical variants of African languages. The word Semite is from semi which means half. Half what? Half BLACK! (mulatto!) Semite refers to the descendants of Shem, one of Noah's sons. The word originates from the Latin prefix semi which means half. "half Black and half white... therefore Black (since Black is genetically dominant)" points out Dr. Cress Welsing. Historian Cheikh Anta Diop also points out that the "Semitic" arises in the 4th millennia B.C. from crossbreeding between Black inhabitants of the holy land and white northern invaders. While many Semites (such as Jews & gypsies) have mixed so much with whites that they've forgotten or deny their African roots, racism (white supremacy) will never let them forget this no matter how light-skinned they become, as proved by Hitler, who mandated their destruction because they were classified by whites as "non-white" peple originating in Africa. The very word gypsy means "out of Egypt." whatcha think? |
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Post by kAHANyAH on May 7, 2004 8:26:58 GMT -5
Ancient Jews of israel looked just like the palestinians of today - swarthy whites. And courtney dont believe the hype about the white tribes conquered the entire middle east and mixed their seed in causing the remnants to "liten" up over the generations. That dont hold no water cause dark genes are DOMINANT!  |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on May 7, 2004 13:41:00 GMT -5
that's a lot of good info guys.. now tell me.. what color were they? kah are you saying that the original hebrews of the bible were white? like the white jews we see walking around today?
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Post by 1dell on May 7, 2004 14:36:47 GMT -5
If modern day palestinians look like ancient hebrews, then America today looks just like it did 2000 years ago with White people as a minority.  that's a lot of good info guys.. now tell me.. what color were they? kah are you saying that the original hebrews of the bible were white? like the white jews we see walking around today? |
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Post by Ralph on May 7, 2004 15:16:59 GMT -5
Ancient Jews of israel looked just like the palestinians of today - swarthy whites. And courtney dont believe the hype about the white tribes conquered the entire middle east and mixed their seed in causing the remnants to "liten" up over the generations. That dont hold no water cause dark genes are DOMINANT! Swarthy? Sophardic??? |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on May 7, 2004 15:30:49 GMT -5
ok maybe i need to say this, are they black, white, what?
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Post by kAHANyAH on May 7, 2004 16:30:50 GMT -5
You wanna see a jew ? LOOK AT A PALESTINIAN. Youre a looking at a true jew. that's a lot of good info guys.. now tell me.. what color were they? kah are you saying that the original hebrews of the bible were white? like the white jews we see walking around today? |
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Post by kAHANyAH on May 7, 2004 16:32:05 GMT -5
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Post by kAHANyAH on May 7, 2004 16:34:22 GMT -5
1dell, I use to use the same argument back in the day 'till I realized it dont fly. The natives here in the n. america were damn nearly wiped out!. so of course the "new faces" in america wont be looking like theirs and instead look like those who nearly slaughtered them into oblivion. That is not the case with the indigenous peeps of israel. They were not nearly wiped out. If modern day palestinians look like ancient hebrews, then America today looks just like it did 2000 years ago with White people as a minority. |
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Post by CoUrTnEy on May 7, 2004 21:54:15 GMT -5
ok.. here lemme try to be alittle more clear. you guys are answering but not answering.. i want it in laymans terms.. what race were the original jews? meaning what color was their skin, black, white, what??
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