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Post by 1dell on Mar 21, 2004 13:44:02 GMT -5
You know what! You right Kat! I saw taht picture at work and the monitor at work is like 256 colors and thangs. I coulda swore that looked like a hippo head. lolol. It wasn't until I got home that I saw it looked moor like a cat type of face. LOLOL. Here was my dilema, I was trying to follow what Derek was saying about Bekhmut so I did a search on google and altavista. Only got 2 links on each: www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=bekhmutwww.altavista.com/web/results?q=bekhmut&kgs=1&kls=1&avkw=aaptBUT on the google site, they treat bekhmut as a type and they offer a link to sekhmet and when I followed that link I then went to the Images search for sekhmet and I saw a minature version of that pic you saw. I had no idea that pic was that big. lol. AS a thumbnail, it looked like a hippo headed chick. lol All I saw was some titties and I was like aw shucks. Bekhmet aint showing jack, so how can I find out about this hippo chick? Sekhmet, the daughter of Ra and wife of Ptah, she is also known as a healer and is the Lion head warrior goddess. In her lesser form she is known as Bast. That picture looks more like Sekhmet than the hippo Tawaret- the protector of Egyptian children.
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Post by 1dell on Mar 21, 2004 14:51:23 GMT -5
Ok Bekhmut aint bringing up NOTHING. But here is Tauret thehippo-headed goddess: Dont look nothing like what we read in Iob 40. Verse 20 says this creature gets it's food from the mountains. Yeah derek you are correct about behemot being Plural. Just like pluralizing the word Torah (female word) will be Tarot. Bling Bling! Anyway, That makes it worst though derek. Behemah is the word for beast: 1) beast, cattle, animal a) beasts (coll of all animals) b) cattle, livestock (of domestic animals) c) wild beasts And to make behemah plural you add -ot, thats what I was talking about before. Whatis unique is that no where else is thebible is this world made plural, even when you read the word BEasts it's still behemah. My point is this, the word Behemah means beasts, cattle, livestock, wild beasts whether male or female the word itself is female. Studying other languages other than english will help a person understand the concept of male and female and neuter words. The point of me even saying this, is that even though the word is femi9 the translators are correct when they speak of the behemot as male. Why is not behemah not pluralized in other parts of the bible but it is in Iob? Thats why I asked the earlier questions. Where is Uz (where Iob is from) because this is not a place in Ysra'al where treatment of words can differ. It's funny how when we get to the book of Iob we find the word beast 6 times: Job 5:22 At destruction and famine thou shalt laugh: neither shalt thou be afraid of the beasts of the earth. Job 5:23 For thou shalt be in league with the stones of the field: and the beasts of the field shall be at peace with thee. Job 12:7 But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: Job 18:3 Wherefore are we counted as beasts, [and] reputed vile in your sight?Job 35:11 Who teacheth us more than the beasts of the earth, and maketh us wiser than the fowls of heaven? Job 37:8 Then the beasts go into dens, and remain in their places. Job 40:20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play. The verses in Purple are highlighted because the word "BEASTS" is behemot in hebrew. I wonder why the translators didn't leave them as behemot or why they didn't translate behemot as beasts. Go figure, but the truth is under the language. These are not hippos, nor is this reference to Tauret. I asked before where is Uz? I don't know if anyone can tell us, but lets look at some things that might give us some clues: Job 40:15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. Job 40:16 Lo now, his strength [is] in his loins, and his force [is] in the navel of his belly. Job 40:17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. Job 40:18 His bones [are as] strong pieces of brass; his bones [are] like bars of iron. Job 40:19 He [is] the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach [unto him]. Job 40:20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play. Job 40:21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens. Job 40:22 The shady trees cover him [with] their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about. Job 40:23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, [and] hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth. Job 40:24 He taketh it with his eyes: [his] nose pierceth through snares. versus 19-23 gives us some clues as to the locale of these beasts: 20: Mountains yield food for him 21: there are lotus trees, reeds and marsh 22: There are willow trees and a brook 23: a River 24: THE JORDAN RIVER gushes into his mouth Does this sound like egypt to anyone? Not me. And since it's NOT egypt how can this be a hippo? Since hippos are found in egypt? I agree with the bible scholars that this must be some type of exstinct dinosaur typa thangy. That egyptian Bekhmet connection just aint jiving My point is this, Behemot is nothing moor that the word Beasts. It's a particular beast he is talking about and not refering to Bekhmut, THE ONLY reason derek is using this version of the word is because it's so close to behemot evenwhen the moor accepted version of the word is Pehemaut. This just doesn't work here is why.
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Post by DEREK on Mar 21, 2004 16:39:21 GMT -5
Speaking of the Book of Iyowb will lead us off into a different topic and thread altogether. Respectively should be treated as such. I was merely showing how the SEVEN premeates throughout Genesis.
In Rastau (Giza Plateau) observance of how the Elohim (Pautiu) showed 'Eth' and explained the upper (Elish) and lower (Saplish) Heavens.
In Rasit (Rastau) Egyptian, gives us a point of place, which, when identified with phenomena, is a starting-point in space, in time. The Hebrew word Bar, to declare, make manifest, to fill. Agrees with the Egyptian Par, or Para, to show, cause to appear, manifest, fill up. It was that Light from Tauret as Ursa Major which 'filled' the Eretz. How he established his wisdom on Earth. She is known as Khept (Kefa), greek Hept, in hebrew Sheba. Whether it's said that Elohim (Seven Archangles) were their at foundation of this world. Seven Spirits who are the Seven EYES, that ALL SEEING EYE, that records 26,000 Years of History (Procession) she is starting point in the ways of God, (Refer to Dendarah Chart of Zep Tepi (First Time).
Finish later.
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Post by Zandor on Mar 21, 2004 17:14:36 GMT -5
Behemoth is Baphomet, the MASONIC GOAT! In the higher degrees of masonry, I reveal the true idenity of Baphomet, the egyptian hermaphrodite (Hint: BES and TAWERET are ONE! And they had sexual relations with Queen Hatshepsut!) 'Behold Behemoth, which I made as I made you; he eats grass like an ox. Behold, his strength is in his loins, and his power in the muscles of his belly. He makes his tail stiff like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together. His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like bars of iron. He is the first of the works of God; let him who made him bring near his sword! For the mountains yield food for him where all the wild beast play. Under the lotus plant he lies, in the covert of the reeds and in the marsh. For his shade the lotus tree covers him the willows of the brook surround him. Behold, if the river is turbulent he is not frightened; he is confident though Jordan rushes against his mough. Can one take him with hooks, or pierce his nose with a snare?' -Job 40:15-24
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Post by kAHANyAH on Mar 21, 2004 17:21:28 GMT -5
Behemoth in hebrew is spelt - beth, he, mem, vau, tau. A noticeable qabalistic root is mem, vau, tau [maveth] which is to say " DEATH". And we have beth, he, mem, he [behemah] or the cattle/beast. Hence we have behemah + maveth = behemoth ; signifying the law of sacrifice (killing of cattle).
Because Behemoth is the R'SHIYTH [beginning] of G-d's ways [ref., job 40.19], the law of sacrifice (implied qabalistically in the word behemoth) gives rise to creation in genesis - the creation of heaven and earth. There is a GREATER BEHEMOTH and he is the cattle called the lamb (goat,sheep). His sacrifice, qabalistically stipulated in the word "behemoth" brings life to the world. The "Beginning" in genesis 1.1 is the sacrificial lamb.
We can now translate the scripture in the following manner : Gen 1.1, G-d created the heavens and earth thru the law of sacrifice.
This is an example of how the sages in mystical qabala went about on scriptural expounding.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Mar 21, 2004 17:30:32 GMT -5
He [Baphomet] is John the beheaded one who preached in the wilderness. He is Al'chemetically known as AZAZEL the goat who teaches in the wilderness. John is the first Panah [face] of Jesus. Behemoth is Baphomet, the MASONIC GOAT! In the higher degrees of masonry, I reveal the true idenity of Baphomet, the egyptian hermaphrodite (Hint: BES and TAWERET are ONE! And they had sexual relations with Queen Hatshepsut!) 'Behold Behemoth, which I made as I made you; he eats grass like an ox. Behold, his strength is in his loins, and his power in the muscles of his belly. He makes his tail stiff like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together. His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like bars of iron. He is the first of the works of God; let him who made him bring near his sword! For the mountains yield food for him where all the wild beast play. Under the lotus plant he lies, in the covert of the reeds and in the marsh. For his shade the lotus tree covers him the willows of the brook surround him. Behold, if the river is turbulent he is not frightened; he is confident though Jordan rushes against his mough. Can one take him with hooks, or pierce his nose with a snare?' -Job 40:15-24
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Post by Zandor on Mar 21, 2004 17:34:52 GMT -5
very good kah! but did you know that in the scriptures the word LAMB really means GOAT? behemoth is actually JESUS, the sacrificial GOAT! Behemoth in hebrew is spelt - beth, he, mem, vau, tau. A noticeable qabalistic root is mem, vau, tau [maveth] which is to say " DEATH". And we have beth, he, mem, he [behemah] or the cattle/beast. Hence we have behemah + maveth = behemoth ; signifying the law of sacrifice (killing of cattle). Because Behemoth is the R'SHIYTH [beginning] of G-d's ways [ref., job 40.19], the law of sacrifice (implied qabalistically in the word behemoth) gives rise to creation in genesis - the creation of heaven and earth. There is a GREATER BEHEMOTH and he is the cattle called the lamb. His sacrifice, qabalistically stipulated in the word "behemoth" brings life to the world. The "Beginning" in genesis 1.1 is the sacrificial lamb. We can now translate the scripture in the following manner : Gen 1.1, G-d created the heavens and earth thru the law of sacrifice. This is an example of how the sages in mystical qabala went about on scriptural expounding.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Mar 21, 2004 17:39:57 GMT -5
Yes I knew Lamb is goat. Matter of fact, there are TWO GOATS [sa'ir] , AZAZEL and YAHOVAH. For the two must be sacrificed! One to the Lord and other to the wilderness. These two are heaven [lord's lot] and earth [wilderness], created in Genesis 1.1 very good kah! but did you know that in the scriptures the word LAMB really means GOAT? behemoth is actually JESUS, the sacrificial GOAT!
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Post by kAHANyAH on Mar 21, 2004 17:50:43 GMT -5
Both Jesus and John were behemoths. very good kah! but did you know that in the scriptures the word LAMB really means GOAT? behemoth is actually JESUS, the sacrificial GOAT!
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Post by KnaxemDead on Mar 21, 2004 22:02:12 GMT -5
Getting back to the original topic.
Enuma Elish Tablet 1:3 Abzu Ma Restu Zeru Shun And then The Ancient One The Elder Apsu (Ab.Zu is Abyss), their progenitor.
Tablet 1:4 Mummu Tiamat Muwallidat Grimrishun The Wise Fashioner Tiamat, she birth them all.
Tablet 1:5 Meshunu Ishtenish Ihaquma Their Waters Mingled Together.
When it was speaking of Heaven in Genesis 1:1 the akkadian word Shamamu or hebrew Shamayim is TWO WATERS. Seperation of that which is above (elish) from that below (shaplish) there was no name for either at this time. The Elder (Restu) was head progenitor of this Generation. It was his lineage which marked this New Beginning (Rashiyth). His wise and virgin spouse Tiamat who inside her womb fashioned two twins. Lahmu & Lahamu then Anshar & Kishar then Anu and Ea. Later planets (heavens) were named after these generations (Gen2:4)
Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so.
The firmament: Enuma Elish Tablet I: 6-7 specifically says that dry land, firmament didn't appear until after the waters mingled and was then seperated by firmament of Reed and Marsh lands.
There is no doubt which proceeded the other, however we see same words in hebrew used in Genesis that are used in Akkadian version of Enuma Elish. In my translation, transliterating and correlation is providing insight to what the Hebraic Bible is trying to reveal to you.
To answer the question put forth, is that Courtney is right insomuch as that what you reading in Genesis is the Elohim (Pauti), appointing duties and functions for life to thrive on earth, in perperation for Humans to dwell in. This isn't speaking of creation from nothing.
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Post by Zandor on Mar 22, 2004 0:47:32 GMT -5
york type ****! i'm ready for battle!! ea (enqi) is the ****. i cant **** wit him. challenge me. are you ready? i'm not. whats your name? you dont know me! i'm a *****! **** york! i love jesus. he be my savior! i'm drunk Getting back to the original topic. Enuma Elish Tablet 1:3 Abzu Ma Restu Zeru ShunAnd then The Ancient One The Elder Apsu (Ab.Zu is Abyss), their progenitor. Tablet 1:4 Mummu Tiamat Muwallidat GrimrishunThe Wise Fashioner Tiamat, she birth them all. Tablet 1:5 Meshunu Ishtenish IhaqumaTheir Waters Mingled Together. When it was speaking of Heaven in Genesis 1:1 the akkadian word Shamamu or hebrew Shamayim is TWO WATERS. Seperation of that which is above (elish) from that below (shaplish) there was no name for either at this time. The Elder (Restu) was head progenitor of this Generation. It was his lineage which marked this New Beginning (Rashiyth). His wise and virgin spouse Tiamat who inside her womb fashioned two twins. Lahmu & Lahamu then Anshar & Kishar then Anu and Ea. Later planets (heavens) were named after these generations (Gen2:4) Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so. The firmament: Enuma Elish Tablet I: 6-7 specifically says that dry land, firmament didn't appear until after the waters mingled and was then seperated by firmament of Reed and Marsh lands. There is no doubt which proceeded the other, however we see same words in hebrew used in Genesis that are used in Akkadian version of Enuma Elish. In my translation, transliterating and correlation is providing insight to what the Hebraic Bible is trying to reveal to you. To answer the question put forth, is that Courtney is right insomuch as that what you reading in Genesis is the Elohim (Pauti), appointing duties and functions for life to thrive on earth, in perperation for Humans to dwell in. This isn't speaking of creation from nothing.
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Post by kAHANyAH on Mar 22, 2004 5:33:06 GMT -5
LOL!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D youre nuts!!! york type ****! i'm ready for battle!! ea (enqi) is the ****. i cant **** wit him. challenge me. are you ready? i'm not. whats your name? you dont know me! i'm a *****! **** york! i love jesus. he be my savior! i'm drunk
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Post by Zandor on Mar 22, 2004 12:47:55 GMT -5
thanks courtney york type ****! i'm ready for battle!! ea (enqi) is the ****. i cant **** wit him. challenge me. are you ready? i'm not. whats your name? you dont know me! i'm a *****! **** york! i love jesus. he be my savior! i'm drunk
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Post by CoUrTnEy on Mar 22, 2004 13:10:35 GMT -5
no problem dear- just doin my admin duties thanks courtney
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Post by Kerhetmekheetatun on Mar 22, 2004 14:36:15 GMT -5
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