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Post by AllahJihad on May 3, 2004 20:19:15 GMT -5
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Post by DenhamEL on May 4, 2004 8:30:58 GMT -5
Peace GOD!
I am Bro. Denham-El a Moorish American and i am also known as " GOD I AM Awareness Allah! i gained knowledge of self in knowledge born build destroy knowledge, I was 12 years old, that same year I was initiated into the Yoruba religion. Your book is going to be a "great book" GOD, but there are a few things about The MSTA and Prophet Drew Ali that was not correct! Such as the Title "noble" and how he acquired that title and from who, was wrong! No European has ever given a title to Our Prophet Drew ALi just hit me up and we will build!
Peace GOD!
Knowledge Knowledge!
Denham-El
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Post by AllahJihad on May 4, 2004 17:53:59 GMT -5
Peace,
Send me an e-mail and refference to either online or some boks where I can go to that can back your statement up. And if your right, then I stand to be correct and will correct that.
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Post by DenhamEL on May 4, 2004 19:24:17 GMT -5
Peace God! This info is not found online or in books brother! It is only found in the MSTA (Adept Chamber). Many things are not known about the truth of Our Prophet. Some info is given to those outside Moorish Divine National Movement (Government), because those on the outside looking in do not have a clue! Brother do you know there was a split after The Prophet changed forms . Some went Bro. John Givens- El (The Reincarnated Prophet) and others went with C.Kirkman-Bey and others followed Sheik Davis FORD-El and Robert Poole-Bey (Elijah Muhammad). Today there are many so-called Moorish Movements such as "Azzian", "Great Seal" "Nuwaubian Moors" "C.M. Bey followers" and those who follow "Timothy Dingle -El, The Supreme Grand Ressurection of Moors" I could go on and on. But there is only one Moorish Science Temple of America and one Prophet! Many of these so called movements do not even know what or who Prophet Drew ALI did for our people. Brother, if you haven't join a temple and further your research! Peace ! Peace, Send me an e-mail and refference to either online or some boks where I can go to that can back your statement up. And if your right, then I stand to be correct and will correct that. |
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Post by AllahJihad on May 5, 2004 12:39:55 GMT -5
Peace,
I was in the adept Chambers of the M.S.T.A. and I know about the split and etc. I don't think there is nothing you can tell me about the Moors that I don't know. One of my editors of my book is a Moor/5%er and hes a researcher, I'll check with him on what you stated about the " noble " name. Peace !
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Post by RaShemBey on May 20, 2004 22:13:29 GMT -5
Peace, I was in the adept Chambers of the M.S.T.A. and I know about the split and etc. I don't think there is nothing you can tell me about the Moors that I don't know. One of my editors of my book is a Moor/5%er and hes a researcher, I'll check with him on what you stated about the " noble " name. Peace ! Islam!!! Brother Man, can you trace yourself through the Temple that you brought into the Adept chamber back to the Most Holy Prophet Drew Ali? While some of what you say we don't have a problem with, what we don't understand is, if you were brought into the Adept Chamber of the M.S.T.A. why do you choose to compare what Prophet Ali brought to us with the P.H. Shriners? Prophet Ali brought us the Pure Fez not the adulterated one that those who guard the Dead wear. Prophet Ali brought us the Pure Faith, not the Fraternal Organization that makes a mockery of our First Way of Life on this planet. Prophet Ali declared that we are Moslems, not Keepers of the Dead. We are Resurrectors of the Dead. Prophet Ali Proclaimed before the World that we are what our forefathers were and are, and that is Moorish Americans, Not Negro Shriners. Prophet Ali taught us that the Title Sheik, is an ancient title used by our Forefathers, before even the establishment of the Faith of Mohammed in Arabia. Prophet Ali taught us to be Revealers of the Light not concealers, but to Shine Bright so that the Wayfaring Man can find His way Home. Our Prophet was and is a Divine Thought of Allah manifest in Flesh. Peace |
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Post by Ralph on May 20, 2004 23:13:42 GMT -5
Islam!!! Brother Man, can you trace yourself through the Temple that you brought into the Adept chamber back to the Most Holy Prophet Drew Ali? While some of what you say we don't have a problem with, what we don't understand is, if you were brought into the Adept Chamber of the M.S.T.A. why do you choose to compare what Prophet Ali brought to us with the P.H. Shriners? Prophet Ali brought us the Pure Fez not the adulterated one that those who guard the Dead wear. Prophet Ali brought us the Pure Faith, not the Fraternal Organization that makes a mockery of our First Way of Life on this planet. Prophet Ali Proclaimed before the World that we are what our forefathers were and are, and that is Moorish Americans, Not Negro Shriners. Prophet Ali taught us to be Revealers of the Light not concealers, but to Shine Bright so that the Wayfaring Man can find His way Home. Our Prophet was and is a Divine Thought of Allah manifest in Flesh. Peace Bro. RaShem, As in any organization, you have those who choose to study some things, and you have those who try and find the truth. In PH Freemasonry, what is presented before the craft are certain allegories that many do catch on to. While some are well versed in the ritual, there are some who pursue and try and kearn the religions involved in each and every house. That being Judiasm , Christianity and also Islam. As a former lecture for my temple in Newark, my task was to present to the members why Islam is used in the shrine, and also to teach many other things. Please do not be like many others who caste the stones from the outside without looking at our contributions to Society. They far more outweigh any negative things that may have offended you... |
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Post by DenhamEL on May 21, 2004 7:16:49 GMT -5
Islamism Brotherman! Teach hard brother, RaShem! You know this bro. Allah Jihad I admire for writing his book! It is needed, but when you make statements like "Drew Ali recieved the Title NOble from the queen of England" is pure nonsense! Islam!!! Brother Man, can you trace yourself through the Temple that you brought into the Adept chamber back to the Most Holy Prophet Drew Ali? While some of what you say we don't have a problem with, what we don't understand is, if you were brought into the Adept Chamber of the M.S.T.A. why do you choose to compare what Prophet Ali brought to us with the P.H. Shriners? Prophet Ali brought us the Pure Fez not the adulterated one that those who guard the Dead wear. Prophet Ali brought us the Pure Faith, not the Fraternal Organization that makes a mockery of our First Way of Life on this planet. Prophet Ali declared that we are Moslems, not Keepers of the Dead. We are Resurrectors of the Dead. Prophet Ali Proclaimed before the World that we are what our forefathers were and are, and that is Moorish Americans, Not Negro Shriners. Prophet Ali taught us that the Title Sheik, is an ancient title used by our Forefathers, before even the establishment of the Faith of Mohammed in Arabia. Prophet Ali taught us to be Revealers of the Light not concealers, but to Shine Bright so that the Wayfaring Man can find His way Home. Our Prophet was and is a Divine Thought of Allah manifest in Flesh. Peace |
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Post by RaShemBey on May 23, 2004 19:50:49 GMT -5
Bro. RaShem, As in any organization, you have those who choose to study some things, and you have those who try and find the truth. In PH Freemasonry, what is presented before the craft are certain allegories that many do catch on to. While some are well versed in the ritual, there are some who pursue and try and kearn the religions involved in each and every house. That being Judiasm , Christianity and also Islam. As a former lecture for my temple in Newark, my task was to present to the members why Islam is used in the shrine, and also to teach many other things. Please do not be like many others who caste the stones from the outside without looking at our contributions to Society. They far more outweigh any negative things that may have offended you... Islam Brother Man!!! I am not offended by What goes on in the lodge or Shriner Temple. What I take offense to is someone who misplaces the correct way of looking at who and what we are as a Divine People on these shores of North America as well as the World. To say that Prophet Drew Ali borrowed from the Shriner "Fraternity" and gave them to Moorish American Moslems, insinuates that the Prophet was merely playing. Only in the Shriner Fraternity is there play going on. As even they themselves call it the Fun house. Prophet Drew Ali was One who saw the hidden depths of the history of our people in the disguise of the Fun going on therein. Islam is the Completion of Judaism and Christianity or more correctly the Pure Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. Some people will say what about Hinduism etc. And we state that Hinduism is another expression of our Ancient Forefathers Divine Creed of Islam. We trust that those who claim Moorish would be more studious of these aforementioned points of interest. Peace and Love. |
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Post by Belief in one God on Mar 18, 2011 7:19:50 GMT -5
This one they refer to as Allah Jihad is nothing more than a fraud and a Plagerist who has clearly been nothing short of an agent provocatuer who serves to infultrate the various orders of African thought. His Book Immortal Birth has nothing Revealing inside, just a collection of already published notes combined to state a point or ideal that was already expressed. It is my contention that this "cat" should be investigated to find out who he really is. According to a well publicised feud between he and Chairman Fred Hampton Jr. a few years back, he was exposed as a liar and a fake, by his own group. The measure was publicized on assata speak's ot the talking drum, so if anyone is interested in learning about who the real author Allah Jihad is, then simply type in your search engine, Disclaimer on Allah Jihad by Chairman Fred Hampton Jr. and you will know what type of cat you are dealing with. Oh, and by the way, the book didn't do well at all, its straight garbage. Peace
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Post by tacigegaana on Jun 24, 2019 21:43:35 GMT -5
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